The Mystery of the Father and the Son

In the beginning there was God, Elohim [the Mighty Ones]. 

Genesis 1:26 And God [Elohim; the Mighty Ones] said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: 

Here the word for God [Elohim] was a plural word; meaning the Mighty Ones.  It was decided that one of these Mighty Ones would resign his God-ship and giving up his Godhood would be made flesh to experience what it was like to be flesh and not God, and to be sacrificed for the repented sins of humanity.   

Most of us have held some kind of job at some point so let me ask you:  If you quit or resign from your job or position, do you still remain in that position?   Of course not, you have given up that position!  Just so, the God Being who resigned his Godhood to be made flesh, who gave up his God-ship to become a man; was no longer God after resigning but only a man! 

Yes, a man full to overflowing with the Holy Spirit,but nevertheless only a man and not God. 

No Jesus was not some kind of hybrid God-man; he had resigned and given up his Godhood to become 100% flesh, a 100%  human being.  In the flesh, Jesus Christ was NOT God!  He was mortal flesh. 

For this reason Jesus refused to allow the term good to be applied to him even though he accepted and even claimed to be the Son of God [which, in the flesh he was] he never allowed himself to be worshiped as God.  In John 9 and Matthew 14 the word “worshiped” G4352 in context is better rendered as “they were in awe of him.”

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:

It was because Jesus was NOT God but was only flesh, that he died fully, completely and absolutely for our sins.  He was truly dead, dead, dead; and completely dependent on the Father to raise him up. 

Now notice that Jesus prayed not just that the Father would resurrect him, but that the Father would glorify him with the glory which he had had before giving up his Godhood to become flesh.  Jesus was praying that his Godhood [which he had given up] would be RESTORED to him

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me [together] with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was

In this one line which we read every Passover, Jesus confirms that he was a God together with God the Father before the world was made, and he confirms that he had given up his God-ship to become a fleshly man.   

The God of the Old Testament

When sin entered, it separated God the Father from humanity:

Isaiah 59:1 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. 

For this cause the God Being who became the Father left and gave the responsibility of reconciling humanity to Him, to the God Being who later gave up his God-ship to become flesh.  This responsibility and office of reconciliation is the function of a high priest, and the God Being who later became flesh occupied the office of Spirit High Priest between God the Father and humanity as Melchizedek.

It was this God in the office of Spirit High Priest who dealt with humanity from the most ancient times and who married Israel at Mount Sinai.   

From the time that Eve and Adam sinned all humanity was cut off from access to God the Father as demonstrated by the veil in the tabernacle/temple coming between the people and the Most Holy Place, the throne [seat of mercy] of God the Father. 

ONLY the physical high priest could pass through that veil representing sin and that only once a year, which represented that humanity was cut off from God the Father by sin; and that it was the high priest who interrelated with humanity, as an allegory that the Spirit High Melchizedek [the God who gave up his Godhood to become flesh as Jesus Christ] was the Being who dealt with humanity.  See the study through Hebrews

Until a God Being gave up his God-ship to become flesh the people had worshiped God as an entity consisting of one person, not understanding that God is a family of more than one personal Being.  In the Psalms and certain other scriptures the existence of the Father is implied, but the existence of TWO God Beings was not clearly understood; which is the stumbling block of Unitarianism. 

Today Judaism stumbles at the idea of more than one Being in a God family; while the rest of Israel also stumbles at Christ, wrongly believing that Christ made keeping the law unnecessary. 

Isaiah 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 1 Peter 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

Now comes a simple matter of arithmetic:  If there are two and one is removed, what is left?  Why even a child can say that two removing one, leaves only one left!  When a God gave up his Godhood and became flesh, only ONE Being was left as God and he became God the Father.

Therefore, once this God Being gave up his Godhood to become flesh; only ONE God remained. 

It was this Father who revealed the Son Mark 1:11,

Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

. . . and it was the Son [the Being who gave up his Godhood to be made flesh] who revealed that there were TWO Beings in the God family!  

Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

It was the Father to whom Jesus prayed and by whom he performed miracles and taught; and it was God the Father who resurrected and glorified this man BACK to the Godhood which he had given up to save humanity. 

It is most important to understand that the very Creator God (John 1) first gave up his God-ship resigning as a God Being to become mortal flesh and then he gave up his life for us, so that through sincere repentance and the application of that sacrifice we could be redeemed from our sins and receive the gift of eternal life as spirit sons of God! 

Conclusion 

Before the birth of Yeshua [Jesus] in the flesh, God was thought to be a single entity composed of ONE Being.  During that time, unknown to humanity; the Being who became the Father left all human affairs in the hands of his Spirit High Priest Melchizedek [who later gave up his Godhood to become flesh as Jesus Christ]. 

Then this one Spirit High Priest God Being resigned his God-ship to become fully flesh, and while in the flesh revealed that God is an entity of two persons and will ultimately consist of many persons as repentant humanity is changed to spirit and becomes the children of God. 

The heresy that God the Father was directly involved in human affairs along with the Being who became Jesus Christ; is intended to obscure the fact that the God of the Mosaic Covenant was Jesus Christ, and the laws of the Mosaic Covenant were given by Jesus Christ; and is ultimately intended to lead to a claim that Jesus delivered us from any necessity to obey the laws which God in the person of Jesus Christ gave to Moses. 

Clearly put;  this error is the foundation for a future false claim [as was done by these same men in the WCG] that the laws which God gave to Moses are no longer obligatory, being only for the Mosaic Covenant; and that any obligation to keep them has been removed by Christ in the New Covenant.

See TheShiningLight and UCG News Update article for information about the doctrinal change on this subject being contemplated for passage by next week’s CoE Conference.

I challenge all brethren and elders: Please study through the articles in Categories 101, 201, 301 and 401 at the Bible studies site.  Your relationship with God and your potential eternal life is worth the effort!

 

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  1. Your premise that Jesus Christ did not accept worship is incorrect. There were a number occurrences where He accepted worship including Matthew 14:23 and John 9:38.

    Thank you: To clarify; neither of these scriptures say what you try to imply; both say that Jesus was worshiped as the Son of God, not as a God. In fact in this context the word “worshiped” G4352 is better rendered as “they were in awe of him.”

    It is important to study these things out thoroughly instead of jumping to conclusions based on preconceived assumptions.

    No Jesus was not some kind of hybrid God-man; he had resigned and given up his Godhood to become 100% flesh, a 100%  human being.  In the flesh, Jesus Christ was NOT God!  He was mortal flesh. 

    For this reason Jesus refused to allow the term good to be applied to him even though he accepted and even claimed to be the Son of God [which, in the flesh he was] he never allowed himself to be worshiped as a God.  James

  2. Bob Korneluk had verse 33 (not :23) of Matthew 14 in mind, which states: “Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the SON of God.”

    And as James wrote the Son of God was worshipped, b/c “they were in awe of Him.” I almost want to add shock, as in “shock and awe;” however, many people, during the time Jesus Christ walked the earth, were watching for some sort of a Messiah to show up on the scene, but most never recognized Him as “the Man!” Awe is just fine.

    Bob Korneluk mentioned John 9:38, but using additional context proves James’ point regarding the Son of God:

    John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the SON of God?
    36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
    37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
    38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

    James mentioned: “… In the flesh, Jesus Christ was NOT God! He was mortal flesh. For this reason Jesus refused to allow the term good to be applied to him even though he accepted and even claimed to be the Son of God [which, in the flesh he was] he never allowed himself to be worshiped as a God…”

    John 1:14 tells us that the Word was made flesh. What kind of flesh?

    As some “food for thought,” Hebrews 2 tells us that Jesus Christ was just like us: a human being, flesh:

    “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;” Heb 2:14

    If Jesus was a partaker just like us, then what was His mind like?

    Romans 8:7 says: “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.”

    For Jesus Christ to be like us, a partaker in flesh and blood, then that enmity must have been in Him too, or He could not be like us.

    Eph 2 tells us that enmity was in Christ’s flesh and it was abolished. Incidentally, however God did this within (perhaps, probably by the overcoming power of God’s Spirit) His Son, that enmity within Christ never displayed itself like it has in all of us to one degree or another, but scripture says enmity was in His flesh:

    Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

    So, how was that enmity abolished? Next verse tells us:

    Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

    In my Authorized KJV my margin for the word “thereby” says: “in Himself.”

    I suggest that Christ did not consider Himself good, b/c He knew that enmity was in His flesh. Later, at His murder by the Devil via Judas/others, Christ’s death finally did slay that enmity that was within. Yes, Jesus Christ experienced what it really was like to be made a partaker in the likeness of flesh.

    Of course, it may be good to remember that Christ’s death was to accomplish many things (e.g. Hebrews 2:14 cited above).

    John

    Well said! I am encouraged that some are thinking and studying these things out! James

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