Bob Thiel, Mark Mickelson and More

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Bob Thiel

Herbert Armstrong taught that the first half of Daniel’s 70th Week Prophecy was fulfilled by the ministry of Jesus Christ and that ONLY the last 3 1/2 years – last half of the 70th week – remains to be fulfilled.

I teach that the first 1/2 of the 70th week was fulfilled when the brethren fled to Pella and the Roman prince Titus laid siege to Jerusalem.   

See The 70 Weeks Prophecy which explains how the first half of the last [70th] week has already been fulfilled and only the last 3 1/2 years remains to be fulfilled.  

Regardless of this point about when in the first century the first 1/2 of the 70th week was fulfilled; we both teach that the first half of the 70th week was fulfilled in the first century; and once the coming peace deal is declared, the tribulation will begin unexpectedly and immediately (1 Thess 5:3, Mat 24:15).  

In regards to the tribulation beginning immediately once a peace deal is declared and the man of sin goes to the temple mount:  BOTH HWA and I are standing on God’s Word.

Bob Thiel teaches and has convinced many of his thoroughly Evangelical Hal Lindsey view, that the first half of the 70th week REMAINS to be fulfilled; and that after a peace deal is made in the Middle East there will still be 3 1/2 years for him [them] to do an “Elijah” type work BEFORE the tribulation begins.  Bobby getting his beliefs from the unconverted instead of from the scriptures is wrong on many points.

Bob Thiel – including many others – is absolutely WRONG and teaches contrary to scripture when he says that they will have three and one half years to do an “Elijah” work after a Mideast peace deal is proclaimed as achieved.  

Bob knows that he teaches the exact opposite of HWA and Bob still falsely claims to teach according to HWA,  lying in an attempt to attract followers.  

God is allowing false prophet Bob Thiel to deceive many leading men into his gross anti scriptural heresy, to test us to see if we will believe the Word of God or the anti scriptural words of men.

Mark Michelson

About three years ago a certain man suggested that I listen to sermons by Mark Mickelson saying they were very good.  I listened to a few and then wrote back that Mark was USING the name Armstrong to attain a reputation as an Armstrong loyalist, but Mark was teaching contrary to Armstrong.  

The gentleman was offended but that assessment was just as true for Mark as it is for false prophet Bob Thiel today.

Through the years Mark has USED the name Armstrong to attain a reputation as an Armstrong conservative; and having established that reputation, he is deceiving many in UCG into the [solidly Tkach] evangelical position on the nature of God.  

Mark’s paper and sermons teach that the “the LORD of Hosts” is exclusively God the Father.  

This solidly evangelical teaching is intended to claim that all of the Old Testament correction for sin was by God the Father, but that Jesus has now paid the penalty in our place so we would never again need to fear correction for not living by the “Old Testament” Word of God; making grace a license to be tolerant of sin.  

Over the past decade many have been changing their concept of Jesus; away from Jesus the powerful LORD that destroyed all sinners and cast the evil doers out of the temple, into a tolerant of sin Jesus Christ.

The next step is to blur the fact that Jesus was the God of the Old Testament who married Israel, in order to claim that the “Old Testament-Old Covenant”  was about God the Father; and that Jesus the Son made the Old Laws of no effect by paying the price for sin for us, so that all we need now is an emotional love and tolerance and the Ten Commandments which are love [implying that the other laws are not obligational or salvational];  and we need no longer keep the so called Old Testament laws given by God.  

In general massive changes have already been made in the attitudes of many brethren towards doctrine and towards the nature of God the Father, Jesus Christ, Law and Grace and tolerance for sin.  

Gary Antion’s [UCG] Seventh Day Adventist false teaching that;  “we do not keep the commandments because we have to, we keep them because we want to” is absolutely FALSE.

This seems plausible to the superficial, because yes, we should want to, but the law is binding whether we want to or not.

This is very subtle but it exalts our will above the binding Word of God; it is the same LIE that Satan told in the garden:  We do not have to obey God if we do not want to and we will not die if we decide what we want to do for ourselves.  

Brethren, false teachers are deceiving and leading UCG into the correction of great tribulation and if we do not repent of our rebellious attitude we will surely DIE eternally.

The elders and brethren are being taught and convinced of this very subtle heresy, which is a lead into the final agenda of the evangelical Tkach teaching that the so called “Old Testament” laws are now optional because Jesus has paid for breaking these things in advance, and grace now makes any zeal to keep the law of God unnecessary.

UCG has not made any changes in their list of Fundamental Beliefs however they are not enforcing that list and are allowing many like Mark to believe and teach whatever they want.


The Pharisee Deception

Back in the first century those who were trying to live by every Word of God were studying the prophecies and expecting the coming of Messiah the Christ.  He was recognized by the fulfillment of the prophecies and by his works and teachings, but he was NOT recognized by the majority of the religious establishment in those days.  Why?  

People today totally misunderstand the Mosaic Pharisees, because wicked folks have taught since that first century that the Pharisees were zealous for the law.  This is a complete falsehood!  The Mosaic Pharisees in the first century had replaced the Law and Word of God with their own traditions, which made the Word of God of no effect.  

The Pharisees were NOT zealous for the Word of God, they were zealous for their own ways and their own traditions which were contrary to the Word of God; yet they paid lip-service to God’s Word and declared that their traditions were of God when they were not of God and in fact made God’s Word of NO effect.  

Today, because they called their traditions to be of God, we have been deceived into wrongly thinking that the Mosaic Pharisees were zealous for the Law of God, when they were really zealous for their own ways contrary to God’s Word. 

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.  

These folks paid lip-service to the Word of God, but made God’s Word of no effect by setting their own personal ways and  traditions above the Word of God.

Matthew 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

This deception about the Mosaic Pharisees was to slip in the lie that  Jesus came to replace the Mosaic Covenant with a New Covenant and then deceive people into believing that only love and the Ten Commandments are now required. This is the lie that Jesus, Jude and others warned us about; using a tolerant of sin and doctrinal division Jesus, as a license to justify sin and a lack of zeal to live by every Word of God.  

Brethren, this lie about the Mosaic Pharisees being zealous for the Word of God when they were zealous for their own ways contrary to God’s Word was intended to deceive us into thinking that those Mosaic Pharisees were being condemned for loving and living by the Law of God so as to make us think that God’s law is somehow bad.  

Once we believe the lie about the Mosaic Pharisees, we begin to minimize any zeal for the Word and Law of God as somehow Pharisaical and bad.  Then the shallow turn fully away from living by every Word of God thinking that they are delivered from the keeping Law by Christ, while the others become complacent and completely lacking in zeal to live by God’s Word; and nearly all begin to become just like those Mosaic Pharisees, doing what we want and cleaving to organizational false traditions instead of living by every Word of God .

Jude 1:4  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness [a license to sin], and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ [by denying their teachings which are to live by every Word of God (Mat 4:4)].  

Brethren, the deception is the lie that the Pharisees were zealous for the Law of God, when they were zealous for their own false traditions contrary to the Word of God.  

This LIE is intended to create the impression that they were condemned for keeping God’s Word [when they were condemned for departing from God’s Word], to make us think that any zeal to live by every Word of God is wrong!  

Just like the evangelicals many in UCG are stumbling over Christ today

Judah stumbled at Christ because they cannot understand that YHVH is a family composed of more than one Being.  

Israel stumbles at Christ because they reject Jesus’ teachings to live by every Word of God (Mat 4:4),  thinking that Jesus liberated them from having to live by the laws that God gave to Adam and to  Moses!

And today the much beloved called out brethren have fallen into the same error of the Mosaic Pharisees; in regarding the teachings and traditions of their organizations as being more godly than the Word of God, just like the Mosaic Pharisees did.  

The Mosaic Pharisees did not recognize Christ when he came; and most of  today’s called out will be taken by complete surprise when Christ returns.  They will not be ready if they continue to exalt the traditions of their idols of men above living by every Word of God!

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

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